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	<title>Comments on: First Open IAI (Open) Discussion</title>
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		<title>By: xian</title>
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		<dc:creator>xian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I was initially put off by the idea of a branded slate, I enjoyed the freewheeling discussion via ylive and I believe that the conversation is moving things in a useful direction.

As we discussed live, if everyone in that conversation, whether elected to the board or not, continues to press for these kinds of improvements, then the IAI and (more importantly) the IA and larger UX communities will benefit.

I am curious to to know which IAI efforts you think might be &quot;withering&quot; ones &quot;that eat up the limited capacity we have&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I was initially put off by the idea of a branded slate, I enjoyed the freewheeling discussion via ylive and I believe that the conversation is moving things in a useful direction.</p>
<p>As we discussed live, if everyone in that conversation, whether elected to the board or not, continues to press for these kinds of improvements, then the IAI and (more importantly) the IA and larger UX communities will benefit.</p>
<p>I am curious to to know which IAI efforts you think might be &#8220;withering&#8221; ones &#8220;that eat up the limited capacity we have&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Livia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenn, Austin, Whitney and Amy - I&#039;m counting on seeing you there next time! 

James, that&#039;s a question I have myself. When we picked &#039;open&#039; for Open IAI it did come from the identifying how these ideas seemed very in sync with what the Open Source movement accomplishes.  

However, you are dead on the problem. We aren&#039;t working together to create the best possible product. But I do think we can figure out how to extrapolate the model in service of advancing a discipline for example.

I am curious however, about what you perceive &quot;a member organization&quot; to be (for the IAI). One of my observations about the IAI has been that when it started out I felt violently how much of a volunteering effort it was. Today, it feels very very different. This is only my perception, but volunteering doesn&#039;t sound like the assumed, primary force there. I could be wrong, but anyway, I don&#039;t know why that happened.

Regardless, I&#039;m really hoping you&#039;re one of the smart brains that&#039;s going to figure this one out. ;) One way to look at it is actually something I just came across - the concept or Radical Transparency. In contrast to accountability, it requires decision making to be transparent from the get-go in the decision making process, while accountability is a process of verifying the quality of decisions or actions after they have been taken. 

In that lens, accountability is almost punitive while Radical Transparency is less judgmental and encourages corrections and improvements before poor decisions have the chance to be enacted. I like that as a model. I just wrote a little bit about trying to figure out how &#039;transparency&#039; gets implemented: http://livlab.com/thinkia/2008/09/do-or-do-not-there-is-no-try/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenn, Austin, Whitney and Amy &#8211; I&#8217;m counting on seeing you there next time! </p>
<p>James, that&#8217;s a question I have myself. When we picked &#8216;open&#8217; for Open IAI it did come from the identifying how these ideas seemed very in sync with what the Open Source movement accomplishes.  </p>
<p>However, you are dead on the problem. We aren&#8217;t working together to create the best possible product. But I do think we can figure out how to extrapolate the model in service of advancing a discipline for example.</p>
<p>I am curious however, about what you perceive &#8220;a member organization&#8221; to be (for the IAI). One of my observations about the IAI has been that when it started out I felt violently how much of a volunteering effort it was. Today, it feels very very different. This is only my perception, but volunteering doesn&#8217;t sound like the assumed, primary force there. I could be wrong, but anyway, I don&#8217;t know why that happened.</p>
<p>Regardless, I&#8217;m really hoping you&#8217;re one of the smart brains that&#8217;s going to figure this one out. <img src='http://livlab.com/thinkia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  One way to look at it is actually something I just came across &#8211; the concept or Radical Transparency. In contrast to accountability, it requires decision making to be transparent from the get-go in the decision making process, while accountability is a process of verifying the quality of decisions or actions after they have been taken. </p>
<p>In that lens, accountability is almost punitive while Radical Transparency is less judgmental and encourages corrections and improvements before poor decisions have the chance to be enacted. I like that as a model. I just wrote a little bit about trying to figure out how &#8216;transparency&#8217; gets implemented: <a href="http://livlab.com/thinkia/2008/09/do-or-do-not-there-is-no-try/" rel="nofollow">http://livlab.com/thinkia/2008/09/do-or-do-not-there-is-no-try/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Information Architecture Today :: Findability.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Information Architecture Today :: Findability.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#039;s great to see so much energy and innovation coming from within the information architecture community today. There&#039;s an impressive slate of candidates running for the IAI Board, and I love what Livia Labate, Russ Unger, and Matthew Milan are doing with Open IAI. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it&#8217;s great to see so much energy and innovation coming from within the information architecture community today. There&#8217;s an impressive slate of candidates running for the IAI Board, and I love what Livia Labate, Russ Unger, and Matthew Milan are doing with Open IAI. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Melzer</title>
		<link>http://livlab.com/thinkia/2008/09/first-open-iai-open-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-5956</link>
		<dc:creator>James Melzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Livia, Great job running the show. I had major technology issues and only about 10% attention to spare (wireframing late again) - but I still got a lot out of it. My main takeaway was from our discussion of the first 90 days for the new board. The Board needs to set achievable goals, agree on roles/responsibilities and communicate all that to the members in a way that engages them. I am also super excited about Leisa&#039;s project with Drupal and the lessons she learns engaging a huge vocal international community (no pressure Leisa!). My one mental block is trying to apply open source ideas to a member organization. It may be my own naivety, but it seems that open source communities fundamentally are about forging the best possible product, instantiated in code. Arguably, IAI is about services (not a product) so I&#039;m struggling to see how a product-centered community contribution model applies to it. Maybe it&#039;s just late and my brain has stopped. In any case, bravo on the event! OpenIAI should definitely do it again soon to keep the momentum going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livia, Great job running the show. I had major technology issues and only about 10% attention to spare (wireframing late again) &#8211; but I still got a lot out of it. My main takeaway was from our discussion of the first 90 days for the new board. The Board needs to set achievable goals, agree on roles/responsibilities and communicate all that to the members in a way that engages them. I am also super excited about Leisa&#8217;s project with Drupal and the lessons she learns engaging a huge vocal international community (no pressure Leisa!). My one mental block is trying to apply open source ideas to a member organization. It may be my own naivety, but it seems that open source communities fundamentally are about forging the best possible product, instantiated in code. Arguably, IAI is about services (not a product) so I&#8217;m struggling to see how a product-centered community contribution model applies to it. Maybe it&#8217;s just late and my brain has stopped. In any case, bravo on the event! OpenIAI should definitely do it again soon to keep the momentum going.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Watkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been great to see so much activity within the IAI this week. Thanks for having this discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been great to see so much activity within the IAI this week. Thanks for having this discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate I missed the conversation, because I want to be a more active member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate I missed the conversation, because I want to be a more active member.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitney Hess</title>
		<link>http://livlab.com/thinkia/2008/09/first-open-iai-open-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-5948</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitney Hess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really wish I&#039;d been there. It sounds fantastic. Can&#039;t wait for the next session</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really wish I&#8217;d been there. It sounds fantastic. Can&#8217;t wait for the next session</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Govella</title>
		<link>http://livlab.com/thinkia/2008/09/first-open-iai-open-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-5944</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Govella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds like it was fantastic. I wish I could&#039;ve been there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds like it was fantastic. I wish I could&#8217;ve been there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer b.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could have been there, but it sounds like there will be more opportunities for participation. These things all sound right on to me in terms of transparency and helping people understand how they can participate. Thanks to all who did participate. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could have been there, but it sounds like there will be more opportunities for participation. These things all sound right on to me in terms of transparency and helping people understand how they can participate. Thanks to all who did participate. <img src='http://livlab.com/thinkia/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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